As I identify these differences, I do ask that you do not read them as
absolute statements. They are not. I have not written them to be absolute
statement, only general ones. For example, what Neuro-Semantics has mostly done
is to much more fully develop referencing, reflexivity, apply to self,
community, systems, etc. This doesn’t mean that there is none of this in
NLP, of course there is. In describing the differences, I most want to point to
the key emphases in the two fields.
In the following descriptions then you will find many general statements
about NLP and Neuro-Semantics. These are statements that are generally
true of each model and field. For more specifics, check out the other articles
on
www.neurosemantics.com about both NLP and NS. As an NLP Trainer,
I have over the years written numerous critiques with others on NLP. These were
designed to offer feedback and insight as we acknowledged weaknesses in the
model or the use of the model. Since the founding of Neuro-Semantics our focus
has been to lead in a way that takes these critiques into account.
When Neuro-Semantics began, it grew out of NLP and so it was not
differentiated from NLP at all. We founded it during the days when Bandler had
filed a 90 million dollar lawsuit against the field of NLP so we could continue
if the worst-case scenario occurred. Today Neuro-Semantics has become
significantly differentiated from NLP and I can only imagine that this will only
continue in the years to come. The Neuro-Semantic difference supremely lies in
an attitude—in an intentional stance about who we are who use the model. To that
end we have adapted a statement from Richard Bandler and have added the word
relationship.
From Representation to Referencing
The focus in NLP, and this is the genius of NLP, is on representation.
Recognizing that we think in terms of our sensory systems and uses what we see,
hear, feel, smell and taste to re-present to ourselves within our minds
gives us control knobs for "running our own brain." We have a Movie Mind and
this empowers us to take charge of what plays out in the theater of our mind.
Oftentimes the simplest shifts or alternations in the cinematic features
("sub-modalities") that we use to encode our understandings is sufficient to
create powerfully positive transformations.
The focus in Neuro-Semantics moves on from representation to references and
referencing. First we bring in the world by taking a referent event and
representing it. From there we transform the same event into frames of
reference, and then frames of mind. This moves us up the levels as we classify
or categories our learnings from the events. In this way we create layers of
embedded frames that make up the matrix of our mind. And those layers emerge
organically as the mind-body-emotion system grows. In moving up the levels, we
do this primarily in language, hence the true place for the linguistic of
NLP and the symbolic levels of Neuro-Semantics.
From Linear to Non-Linear Thinking
NLP mostly and primarily involves linear thinking. We see this most
prominently in the domain of eliciting and modeling of strategies. While there
is a place for a meta response in the strategy model using T.O.T.E.
format, it is a minor piece and de-emphasized in actual practice. NLP mostly
talks about sending or swishing the brain somewhere, moving from present state
to desired state, identifying desired outcomes and formatting them to be
well-formed and then just future pacing the experience. All of that is linear in
nature and structure.
Neuro-Semantics focuses on and involves non-linear thinking precisely because
it is driven by reflexivity. In Meta-States training we always begin with a
warning that the kind of thinking required to understand meta-states is
very different from the kind of thinking that governs NLP. At first, learning to
think in non-linear ways can feel very disconcerting. Non-linear thinking means
reckoning with going round and round in loops, spiraling up and down the levels
of the mind, recognizing the numerous feedback and feed forward loops in a
system, and recognizing that multiple processing will be occurring at any given
moment.
From Non-Systemic to Highly Systemic
NLP talks about systems and well it should. It brought lots of system
features in when it began by modeling Family Systems, Bateson’s cybernetics, and
Korzybski’s non-aristotelian system. The problem is that it mostly talks
about systems and actually operates in ways that are very non-systemic
(i.e., linear, black-or-white, either-or, etc.). This has led several of us
(Dilts, Bandler, McWhorter, and Hall) to work on creating models for "systemic
NLP."
To the extent that Neuro-Semantics has reflexivity built into its
structure, it is systemic at its heart. Having incorporated many of the
non-aristotelian principles of Korzybski into its structure, Neuro-Semantics
identifies and uses both feedback and feed forward loops in its patterns and
even has a self-correcting loop built into the model and community itself. This
grew out of the 4 meta-domains (see User’s Manual of the Brain, Volume
II, 2003) and led to the Matrix Model (2003).
You can see and experience the feedback loop in the Matrix model in terms of
a number of the Neuro-Semantic patterns. For example, Mind-to-Muscle pattern
enables us to feed forward a great idea into our body whereas the Intentionality
pattern enables us to feed back to ourselves our intentionality up the levels.
In the Neuro-Semantic community, we have built feedback into our trainings so
that the trainers receive feedback (especially the Trainers and Coaches).
We have numerous forums for feedback as well as our Neuro-Semantic Developers
Colloquium.
From Techniques to Persons in
Relationship
Much of the power of NLP is that it has focus so much on techniques and has
developed many powerful techniques and patterns that allows a communicator,
therapist, hypnotist, manager, etc. to do things to people. Yet this has also
had many unfortunate consequences. It has led lots of people to judge NLP as
manipulative and focused only on "programming" into others without a proper
balance on relationship, rapport, ethics, or ecology. In many places in Europe,
NLP is known so much for its techniques that it is also criticized for
the same—that it is only about techniques, and the model is but a collection of
techniques.
The focus on techniques has also brought out another NLP/ NS
difference. NLP is mostly trained from a meta-program of procedures whereas
Neuro-Semantics is mostly trained from an options point of view. This is one of
those things that many people first notice in our trainings.
Neuro-Semantics focus much more on persons and relationship than on
techniques. While there are many patterns and processes, the over-arching idea
in Neuro-Semantics is to make sure the technology serves people and is offered
in a healthy, balanced, ecological, and human way. To that end, Neuro-Semantics
puts the focus on the personal context, on co-creating a solution with the
client or customer, and on operating in Win/Win relationships with others. This
is part of the vision for Neuro-Semantics as a community and movement.
From Doing to Others to Apply to Self
NLP certainly has the power for us to work "magic" on people. That’s what
Bandler and Grinder found as the modeled Satir, Perls, and Erickson and so they
wrote about "the structure of magic." The problem with this is that the focus is
on the NLP practitioner doing something to the client. And when that’s
the focus, then the frames by implication is that the person doing it to another
doesn’t do it on oneself. As a consequence, NLP as a model has a lot of
criticism and bad press. Many NLPers who haven’t applied the model to themselves
do not even know how to. And that leaves them not "walking their talk" and so
being incongruent, they give NLP a bad name.
In Neuro-Semantics "apply to self" is built into the model. This has also
become a major focus and emphasis, apply the magic first to yourself, and only
then to others. Doing this enables Neuro-Semanticists to walk their talk,
receive the benefits of the magic personally and to then be walking examples and
models of the powerful tools and patterns. It makes for personal congruency—and
personal power.
From Power over to Power with ... or Authenticity
With NLP’s focus on techniques, it followed that there has been a strong
emphasis on power, success, and effectiveness. This shows up in the advertizing
and marketing of NLP. It shows up in the seminars and trainings. Robbins is a
prime example, "Unlimited Power," "Awakening the Giant Within," "Date with
Destiny," etc. This over-focus on "power" and materialistic success predominates
as focus on relationship, wisdom, ecology, community, etc. all take a back row
seat. It also explains why there’s been so much bad press around the theme of
manipulation. Of course, I’m using the term "power" here in the traditional
sense of power over others rather than in the sense of power with
others.
From the beginning, Neuro-Semantics has held forth a vision that emphasizes
relationship, being authentic, connection with others, conducing business
ethically, and creating Win/Win relationships that believe in abundance for all.
I see this as a prevention to the "guru" mentality that has grown up in many
parts of NLP (not to mention other seminar businesses). To be truly successful,
Neuro-Semantics stresses the wealth of connection and relationships, and
power with others as equals and colleagues. The foundation of this is being
true to oneself. So in many Neuro-Semantics trainings we have consciously
focused on balancing Being, Doing, and Having, especially in those trainings on
building wealth and personal mastery.
Personal power and authenticity can go together. But it is not the old
definitions of power as power over others, doing things to others
apart from their awareness, etc. Personal power in the sense of being personally
effective, taking effective action, achieving one’s goals, and getting things
done—in Neuro-Semantics we see that as a natural outcome of finding one’s own
talents, passions, values, and visions.
From 2 to 4 Meta-Domains
In traditional NLP there are only two meta-domains, the Meta-Model and
Meta-Programs. These are taught separately as different domains with little
interconnection. Other domains exist in NLP, but not meta-domains (e.g.,
"sub-modalities," strategies, time-lines, modeling, and hypnosis). These are
also talk separately as if the domains have no inter-connections.
In Neuro-Semantics, the third meta-domain was initiated as the Meta-States
model was discovered and articulated. The modeling influence of Meta-States then
opened our eyes to other meta-domains. The first to be discovered was that of
the meta-modalities or "sub-modalities." This revealed that there was no sub
in "sub-modalities." When we play with the cinematic features of our mental
movies (the "sub-modalities") and use the distinctions of the visual, auditory,
kinesthetic systems, we were really framing from a higher level, an editorial
level to the movie. From this discovery, we came up with six new sub-models or
patterns (The Structure of Excellence: Unmasking the Meta-Levels of
"Sub-Modalities," 1999). Meta-States also revealed that "time" and
time-lines were also meta-states and could be tremendously enriched by the
principles of Meta-States.
From "Sub-Modalities" to Meta-Modalities
In NLP we consider "sub-modalities" as the periodic elements of mind and so
use them as a chemist would in putting together the building blocks of
experience. This metaphor further encourages the breaking down of experience and
so a reductionistic approach. For some in NLP, (especially those who bought into
DHE, see article on website, "Ten Years and Still No Beef!") "sub-modalities"
govern everything.
In Neuro-Semantics we now recognize that there are no sub level for
the so-called domain of
"sub-modalities." The problem is a problem of mis-labeling. The cinematic
features of our mental movies in the sensory channels are not at a lower or
sub level, but are actually the meta-frames. As we now recognize that you
have to go meta to even detect the so-called "sub-modalities," we have to
go meta to them to alter how we have framed a mental movie from color to
black-and-white, from loud to quiet, etc. In meta-stating these distinctions, we
are moving up and so gestalting the experience. We move up the levels of frames
in order to create new generalizations of believing, valuing, expecting,
deciding, intending, etc.
From Primary to Meta-Levels
While NLP speaks about meta-levels (meta-position and Neuro-logical levels),
it focus mostly on the primary level. It does so to its glory as it speaks about
the representational level of the sensory systems and the distinctive features
of one’s internal movie. It also does, yet to its detriment, when it confuses
beliefs, values, criteria, etc. as if they were primary level phenomena. After
all, these are not primary level phenomena, but meta-states (layered
thoughts-and-feelings about various ideas) and that’s why merely shifting the
cinematic features (translated to NLP jargon, "sub-modalities") seldom works.
From beginning with meta-states, Neuro-Semantics focuses on the layering of
level upon level and the systemic nature of the meta-levels. Here our emphasis
moves from the linear nature of NLP that focuses so much on the externals to our
focus on internal thoughts and our layering of them. By distinguishing the
levels and seeing how we layer frame upon frame to create the embedded frames of
any given matrix, Neuro-Semantics provides principles and guidelines for dealing
with this richness of interaction.
In Meta-States, there are principles governing the levels, detailed lists of
the numerous ways levels can interact, and questions for flushing out the
meta-levels (see Meta-States, Secrets of Personal Mastery or Accessing
Personal Genius training manual).
In moving up the meta-levels our challenge lies not so much as to what is
"out there" at the primary level, but in how we apply the higher level meanings
to those events. Focus now shifts to how we have interpreted the events and how
that interpretation impacts our lives. After all, the impact that anything has
on us lies in the meanings that we give that thing. Our meta_level meanings
creates the difference that makes the difference. This is why Neuro-Semantics
places its focus on how we utilize and reframe our meta_levels for the best
impact in our lives.
From State to Fluid Meta-Levels
NLP does have some "logical levels," at least those centers of NLP that
accept Bateson’s Levels of Learning and Robert Dilts’ Neuro-logical levels.
While this model does not fit the criteria for being true "logical levels" it
does provide a wonderful list of 6 distinctions about human experience. Yet the
"logical levels" of this model are static and hierarchical. Using such
nominalizations as "beliefs," "values," "identity," "mission," etc. the model
talks about these layerings as if they were things.
Neuro-Semantics, starting from the Meta-States model, denominalizes "logical
levels" in terms of the verbs or processes—this gives us layering, leveling,
and embedding. From this we can more easily detect and work with the
layering of the mind as we classify experiences using various categories. In
this way, we type or format an experience and treat it as a member of some
class. This describes the psycho-logics of our mind-body-emotion system and
reveals that meta-levels refer to the ideas and feelings we embed other ideas
and feelings within. This allows us to explore, "What do you think or feel about
X?" Neuro-Semantics also uses the linguistic distinction of multi-ordinality to
work with the reflexivity of certain words (nominalizations that we can apply to
itself).
In Neuro-Semantics we see "logical levels" as dynamic and fluid. We layer
thought upon thought and feeling upon feeling. The resulting system creates a
dynamic and ever-moving matrix of our mind.
This highlights yet another NLP/NS difference. NLP, derived from Perls,
Satir, and Erickson, spoke a lot about "parts." This was a contribution that
Leslie Cameron-Bandler brought in from T.A. (Transactional Analysis). In
Neuro-Semantics we typically avoid such elementalism (Korzybski) and speak about
things in a more holistic and systemic way, the mind-body-emotion system.
From No "Why" to Several "Whys"
n NLP practitioner we are taught to "Never ask Why." The "why" question is
considered taboo. Why? Because "it only elicits defenses, excuses, and
rationalizations. It only takes you back into history." This is certainly true
with the "why" of identity or history questions. "Why are you that way?" "Don’t
you know better than that? Why did you do that?"
Neuro-Semantics restores several "Why" questions to the process of modeling
experience. While we seldom ask the "why" of identity or history, we most
definitely ask other why questions. We ask about the why of
intentionality, the why of outcome, and the why of reasons and
reasoning. Why is that important to you? Why do you want that? Why would that be
significant to you? And when a person is in a good state, a state we would like
to confirm and solidify, we coach a person into that by asking why, "Why do you
like that? Why do you believe that? Why do you want that?" We ask that because
we know that in response, the person will find or create reasons and
explanations that will support the experience.
Sometimes we want to know a person's reasons for why he or she does a
particular thing or feels a particular way. Why do I want to know this? Because
reasons operate in our mind as our knowledge base, paradigm map, and
domain of understanding by which we give meaning to things. In this, reasons
create powerful motivations in our propulsion system (moving toward
values and away from dis-values). If a person has enough reasons to do
something, that person will do it. And if I can discover the reasons for an
unwanted behavior, then those reasons provide a leverage point for me as a
coach, therapist, manager, or communicator to reframe and invite a change of
behavior.
Also, in so designing a customized propulsion system for an individual, we do
well to assist that person in uncovering and/or creating high level away from
reasons for changing the behavior as well as high level toward
reasons for pulling the person towards the desired behavior. These why's
are critical to understanding and changing behavior and Neuro-Semantics provides
the tools for doing just that.
From Dissociated Emotion to Meta-Emotions
In NLP, the term meta is generally defined or understood be equated
with "dissociation." To go meta for many trained in traditional NLP means to
"become dissociated." And being dissociated for them means to not feel, to be
"just in the head." This makes meta and the meta-position and anything that has
meta as a preface something un-emotional, devoid of emotion, or
non-emotional. And since in many parts of the NLP world, NLP is much more about
controlling emotions than experiencing them, emotions are seen as to be
controlled.
Neuro-Semantics takes a completely different position on all of this. First,
in Meta-States, we understand that while sometimes a person can step back
from one state of strong negative emotions and into a state of
witnessing, observing, and calmness, the meta response or move generally
involves some emotion and oftentimes more emotion. Joy about joy usually
increases the joy. Joy of learning turns up the positive emotions for learning.
Fear of fear increases the fear, as does anger at fear, fear of anger, shame of
anger, etc. The term meta only refers to taking a position about
another experience of feeling, thought, or physiology. It is not the same as
dissociation.
This is important in Neuro-Semantics because we see emotions as part of the
mind-body-emotion system and therefore to be experienced, even the so-called
"negative" ones. That’s why so many have said that "Meta-States brings the
kinesthetics back into NLP." "Neuro-Semantics is about getting the neurology
activated along with the mind." We are always associated and always
dissociated. It’s just a question of what mind-body states are we experiencing
and which are we not experiencing at any given moment.
From Individualism to Community
NLP’s focus is almost entirely on the Individual. This is seen in the models
and patterns that we have in NLP, in the individualistic nature of the founders
and leaders and in the overall general direction—"run your own brain."
While there were invitations in NLP (Bateson’s anthropology and cultural studies
and Satirs’ Family Systems), NLP has been very individualist.
Neuro-Semantics uses its systems focus to shift focus from the individual
only to focusing also on community, culture, and social contexts. Using
Meta-States, Neuro-Semantics has begun to model cultures and cultural phenomena
and to use more and more group dynamics, teams, and networking to expand
Neuro-Semantics around the globe.
From Remedial to Generative
Here is another generalization; in spite of NLP talking about generative
change, most of the early patterns of NLP were remedial—curing phobias,
re-imprinting the past, decision destroying, time-lining old emotional hurts,
etc. In fact, as a psychologist, when I first found NLP and began teaching it, I
put the best of NLP patterns together on Trauma Recovery and began
teaching workshops on that. This really isn’t any surprise, NLP came from three
therapists who worked with people with problems and many of those
problems had to do with getting free from the past.
So what NLP envisioned in terms of generative or transformative change,
Neuro-Semantics has more fully actualized. By making commercial models on weight
control (Games Slim and Fit People Play), business (Games Business Experts
Play), coaching (Meta-Coaching), etc. our primary focus, we have shifted from
remedial change to transformative change. This has led to patterns that have to
do with increasing performance, becoming masters of our matrix, playing new
frame games, etc.
From Unconscious to more Consciousness
Coming from modeling Ericksonian hypnosis, traditional NLP has a strong
emphasis on the unconscious. It even takes a cue from Erickson to assume
that "the unconscious" is always much wiser and reliable than the conscious
mind—which both Bandler and Grinder have come to describe as "a dick head." In
fact, to take Grinder’s Whispering in the Wind book seriously, we should
never trust the conscious mind and should use Six-Step Reframing as the
quintessential NLP pattern. Why? Because he created it when he was delirious and
not in his conscious mind and because it depends on "the unconscious" rather
than the conscious mind.
Neuro-Semantics puts a lot more focus on becoming mindful or
conscious. We have also called into question this over-valuing of "the
unconscious" mind as if there were only one unconscious mind (see article on
website, Which Unconscious Mind do you Train?). For us in Neuro-Semantic,
it is consciously running our own brain, being mindful of what we are saying and
doing, and consciously present to this moment that makes us uniquely human. Yes,
some states of "consciousness" are painful and problematic. Yet it is not
consciousness as such that’s the problem, but the kind of consciousness.
That’s why we focus on bringing a witnessing and non-judgmental consciousness to
our own states.
From "Pure NLP" to Developing and Ever-Changing NLP
Finally here’s another difference. Today there are NLP Training Centers and
trainers who are arguing for a return to "pure NLP" and that they and they only
do "pure NLP." Several of them have set 1985 as an arbitrary date for this.
Prior to this date, NLP was "pure" after that date, it began to be corrupted by
other influences. Grinder argues for this saying that we need to distinguish NLPmodeling
from NLPapplication (see Whispering in the Wind, 2002). He
argues that Six-Step reframing is NLPmodeling and not NLPapplication.
Of course, this is such a strange twist on a model that began as a paradigm
shift and that presented itself as an ongoing ever-growing and developing model.
In fact, it began with the founders saying, "We have no theory; we’re only
modelers. We only care about what works and describing it."
Neuro-Semantics has focused more on commercial models that apply the numerous
meta-domain models rather than on the models themselves. They are only tools,
only maps. Our question is entirely practical, What can we do with them? Can we
use them to become financially independent, to become fluent and master
stuttering, to master fears and become courageous, to defuse hotheads and other
cranky people, to become resilience in business, etc.? And because of this,
these have become the Neuro-Semantic "Gateway" Trainings.
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